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CT Carry - Waterbury PD retreats from permit requirements

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CT Carry - Waterbury PD retreats from permit requirements

Postby Rich_B » Sun Apr 08, 2012 10:53 am

Waterbury responds to Connecticut Carry's demand to stop denying permit applications for refusal to supply unlawful additional requirements. Their response is that they have educated their officers to no longer do this. They go on to indicate that they will still ignore the law and perform overbearing investigations without cause after the permit application is submitted.

The Waterbury Police Department has retreated to a new line in the sand. One that is also indefensible. Connecticut Carry will investigate how the Waterbury Police Department implements this policy and take actions as necessary from there.

Take note of the Waterbury Police Department's use of the word 'defendant'. Clearly, they have taken a position that someone who applies for a permit is guilty of something and is defending themselves. The Waterbury Police Department needs to change their assumptions of guilt when dealing with law abiding citizens.

Online:
http://ctcarry.com/Campaign/PermitRequi ... _Waterbury
http://ctcarry.com/Campaign/PermitRequirements_Feedback

Letter:
http://ctcarry.com/Document/Details/04f ... 6639ca0e12



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Postby 3319 » Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:12 pm

Absolutely disgusting that they choose to still violate State law. And calling someone trying to exercise their 2nd Amendment right a defendant insults the very freedoms that this Country were founded on. Thomas Jefferson would be appalled.

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Postby Rich_B » Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:29 pm

On 4/12/2012 I was invited to attend a discussion with the Waterbury PD in front of the Board of Firearms Permit Examiners about our complaint of additional permit requirements.

The following is quoted from http://ctcarry.com/Campaign/PermitRequi ... _Waterbury

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The BFPE lectures Waterbury PD on their practices:

On April 12th, 2012 the Board of Firearms Permit Examiners invited both Connecticut Carry and the Waterbury Police Department to sit down in front of the board for a discussion of our letter to Waterbury. Connecticut Carry President Rich Burgess appeared on behalf of Connecticut Carry. The Waterbury Police Department was in attendance with two officers and their legal advisor.

The board made it very clear that, like Connecticut Carry indicated, they had once once before ruled on this along with the Attorney General. They made clear to Waterbury that they understood the issue in front of them and that they also could clearly see that Waterbury was simply skirting the law and the board's ruling.

Waterbury's legal advisor continually pointed to a ruling by Judge Dyer in Farmington v. Board of Firearms Permit Examiners that says:

"Farmington maintains that this condition is a tool which aids police in their statutorily mandated (General Statutes § 29-29) investigation of an applicant's suitability to carry firearms.
This is the same assertion that they made in the letter to Connecticut Carry. Waterbury PD completely ignores the cause necessary to perform such an inquiry and instead insists that they will make blanket requests during every investigation. The board warned them that if people refuse, they may appeal to the board where Waterbury would need to answer as to the cause of letters being requested."

Waterbury also stated that this was "no longer a requirement" which is false. An investigation by Connecticut Carry on the morning of April 12th, 2012 resulted in a recorded conversation with a member of the Waterbury Police Department where the person in the records department indicated that the letters were "required". She indicated that if the letters were not supplied that Waterbury would be unable to perform their background check. This is not true, ridiculous and it means the letters of reference are, in fact, still being required.

Connecticut Carry plans to give Waterbury a chance to resolve this issue and then re-investigate the issue and see if the necessary changes have been made.

The Waterbury Police Department has been put on notice to change their process. The citizens of Connecticut have been put on notice to refuse any blanket requests for letters of reference and appeal with the Board of Firearms Permit Examiners if a denial is issued.

Connecticut Carry would like to extend deep and heartfelt appreciation to the Board of Firearms Examiners for spending their personal, volunteered time to help clarify their ruling and explain the conditions of such to a resistant and misinformed police department. The Board of Firearms Permit Examiners did a great job reasoning against an unreasonable opinion and they are a true asset to this state.

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