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Groan, more CT idiocy

Postby Grouse » Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:46 pm

So we have a new range opening up next year in stamford. It looks to be a well-designed place with a great opportunity for success.
http://www.drtgunclub.com/home/

I mean look at the place, looks and sounds to be perfect for what i am looking for.
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So i look at the memberships.
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Silver Membership Package:

Silver DownRange Tactical Gun Club members will enjoy the following benefits:

Priority use of our state-of-the-art climate-controlled shooting lanes
Two hours of free range use per month ($90 Value)
One hour free hand gun rental per year ($20 Value)
Complimentary firearms safety check each year
Complimentary use of eye and ear protection every visit
2 Guest Passes per year
Up to 5 days advanced reservations of one lane per member
50% off FFL firearm transfer fees (normally $50 - NFA transfers not applicable)
Discounted training classes
Discounted targets and range ammo
The silver membership is an affordable way to get priority range access and special discounts.

:
Gold Membership Package:

Gold DownRange Tactical Gun Club members and their families will enjoy the following benefits:

Priority use of our state-of-the-art climate-controlled shooting lanes
Four hours of free range use per month ($180 Value)
One hour free hand gun rental per year ($20 Value)
Complimentary firearms safety check each year
Complimentary use of eye and ear protection every visit
4 Guest Passes per year
Up to 5 days advanced reservations of one lane per member
50% off FFL firearm transfer fees (normally $50 - NFA transfers not applicable)
Discounted training classes
Discounted targets and range ammo
The gold membership is an affordable way to get your family priority range access and special discounts.

:
Platinum Membership Package:

Platinum DownRange Tactical Gun Club members and their families will enjoy the following benefits:

Exclusive use of our 5 dedicated Platinum Member shooting lanes
Exclusive use of the Platinum Lounge, Locker Room, and Showers
Unlimited range use, Platinum and regular ranges
Free firearm storage (2 handguns and 2 long guns)
Free cleaning of stored guns after each use
10 hours free hand gun rental per year
Complimentary firearms safety checks each year
Complimentary use of eye and ear protection every visit
10 Guest Passes per year
Up to 5 days advanced reservations of one lane per member
50% off FFL firearm transfer fees (normally $50 - NFA transfers not applicable)
Discounted training classes
Discounted targets and range ammo
10 free 15 minute training sessions with a firearms instructor ($250 Value)
The platinum membership is the only way to get your family exclusive access to the best we have to offer.

The membership costs and fees

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Type Initiation Fee Monthly
Maintenance Normal Rate: First Year Total Special Pre-order First Year Price Savings Link
Silver (Individual) $300.00 $30.00 $660.00 $500.00 $160.00 Join Now
Gold (Family)* $400.00 $40.00 $880.00 $650.00 $230.00 Join Now
Platinum (Family)** $5,000.00 $125.00 $6,500.00 $5,000.00 $1,500.00 Join Now

So first off, Range rate is 45 bucks an hour for silver and gold packages.

Platinum total price is 6500 a year. That puts you prepaying for 144.4 hours of range time. to break even you would need to visit the range 3 hours a week.

Here is my old range in Seattle

http://www.westcoastarmory.com/the-range.html

Here are their range memberships
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YOUR BRONZE MEMBERSHIP INCLUDES
Unlimited Access 20 yard pistol bay
$15.00 per visit - no time limit
$25.00 annual membership fee
Additional Guest $10.00 (Shared Lane)

YOUR SILVER MEMBERSHIP INCLUDES
Unlimited Access 20 yard pistol bay
Unlimited Access 25 yard pistol/rifle bay
Additional guest fee $10.00 (Shared Lane)
Express sign in
Annual $275.00 Annual Family $325.00*

YOUR GOLD MEMBERSHIP INCLUDES
Unlimited access 20 yard pistol bay
Unlimited access 25 yard pistol/rifle bay
Limited access to open L.E. training bay
Free handgun rental (excludes specialty items)
Additional guest fee $10.00 (Shared lane)
Express sign in
Annual $350.00 Annual Family $400.00
Lifetime $750.00 Lifetime Family $850.00*
Annual Fees Apply
YOUR PLATINUM MEMBERSHIP INCLUDES
Unlimited access 20 yard pistol bay
Unlimited access 25 yard pistol/rifle bay
Limited access to open L.E. training bay
The ability to schedule classroom & training bay
Limited access to upcoming expansions
Unlimited free access to gun cleaning room
1 free guest per visit
Additional guest fee $10.00
Free gun rental
Express sign in
First in line for allocated and hard to get guns
5% discount on all accessories
Lifetime Membership $1200.00*
Annual Fees Apply


So I made the comparison to CT range prices and seattle range prices today. The owner deleted my posts. <shrug> It is his page, then proceeded to message me that I can not compare east coast to west coast. That doing so is ridiculous. I responded that having lived recently on both coasts I see no real difference in most things as far as prices per unit. Why should a gun range be any different?


Out of curiosity I started a thread on sig forum to see what various people across the US are spending for range fees. It can be read here :
http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/ ... 9980010603


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Postby hayes1966 » Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:56 pm

Where do you live?
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Postby Grouse » Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:59 pm

well it seems i am not the only one to raise a stink about this today. He has changed his website and added the following to the gold and silver packages

Priority use of our state-of-the-art climate-controlled shooting lanes
Minimum one hour free range time per visit
Unlimited range use if there is no wait


this is far more appealing, though it is not what he reiterated in to me in his response to me on facebook.



I know i know i moved to the freakin gold coast where even maids shit golden bricks.
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Postby hayes1966 » Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:34 pm

You could join New Departure in Wallingford (outdoor range) for approx $110-130 per year or find a private club closer to you.
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Postby Grouse » Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:38 pm

That is certainly an option do they have a website?
I am looking for an outdoor range also
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Postby AGust82 » Tue Nov 27, 2012 9:37 pm

That is absurd. I occasionally work in the Stamford/Norwalk area and I'm aware how absurd things are down there sometimes. But seriously, that is absurd. $45/hr?! Is that the member price and it's even higher for the public? Honestly I hope he fails terribly. Even in an area like that, that's just raping people. For $6500 per year you're better off paying a mortgage on some junk property you can shoot on.

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Postby punisher » Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:43 pm

6500$ a year.
Holy cow, maybe its only for millionares?
Those prices weeeeeellllllll beyond my spending budget. Id rather spend that money on firearms.
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Postby MessEleven » Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:26 pm

I think the original price list was a typo. When you go to the site now, the annual is $500. Just a little different. :wink:
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Postby hayes1966 » Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:10 pm

How many people here could afford $500 a year for membership to a club?
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Postby SR9 » Tue Dec 04, 2012 7:54 am

Who can afford to do anything these days? But I digress.

WLOPA is $549 the first year and $199 after that. You get access to Trap and Skeet fields, 75ft pistol range, a 100yard rifle range and seasonal hunting on 54 acres. Not to mention good people to shoot with and a youth friendly environment.

Ranges are open 10am until half hour before sunset, 7 days a week so one can shoot when convenient.

Should I spend that much? Probably not, but for the cost of 1 handgun a year I get some fun that would cost me a lot more if I was just going to an indoor range. I usually shoot for 2 to 3 hours several time a month not including their service rifle, silhouette and plate matches. So do the math.

Find a club that is in your area that offers what you want and join. I am way ahead dollar wise by belonging to WLOPA.
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Postby MessEleven » Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:47 am

hayes1966 wrote:How many people here could afford $500 a year for membership to a club?

Quite a few, given the amount spent on new weapons and ammo here. More importantly, this is on the border of Greenwich. I'm guessing they won't have much of a problem filling memberships.

Spend $25 for an hour of fun at a public indoor pistol range, and during the year you would quickly hit the $500 mark -- without all these amenities. WLOPA is the perfect club for me, but unless you live fairly close it's a long haul to Wolcott. Other private clubs in Fairfield County have even closed their waiting lists.
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Postby GreggAndrews » Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:11 pm

hayes1966 wrote:How many people here could afford $500 a year for membership to a club?


To be honest, if the facilities are really nice, $500 isn't bad.
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Postby hayes1966 » Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:25 pm

Ledyard with a 400yd range, pistol, skeet etc is $150 a year.
Bell City 200yd, covered rifle and pistol range, indoor 22 - $150 (approx)
Capitol City Rocky Hill indoor pistol range - $150
WLOPA is $200

Why wouldn't you join a club where you have a say in the way the club is run as opposed to a private company?

What does this place have that is worth $500?
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Postby MessEleven » Tue Dec 04, 2012 10:49 pm

hayes1966 wrote:Ledyard with a 400yd range, pistol, skeet etc is $150 a year.
Bell City 200yd, covered rifle and pistol range, indoor 22 - $150 (approx)
Capitol City Rocky Hill indoor pistol range - $150
WLOPA is $200

Why wouldn't you join a club where you have a say in the way the club is run as opposed to a private company?

What does this place have that is worth $500?

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Postby magneton44 » Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:10 pm

Somers Sportsmen's Association > $100.00 per Year = A place to SHOOT :D
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