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Gun owners need basic medical training

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snakeeater332
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Gun owners need basic medical training

Postby snakeeater332 » Sat May 26, 2012 9:55 am

I found this compelling video online by Paul Gomez of Gomez Training titled 'Watching Someone You Love Die Sucks': 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6b1v9lcmG0#ws

I strongly believe that if you own a gun and keep it in the home for self-defense, carry it for protection or as a job requirement, bring it to the range, etc., you should also learn basic medical skills (shooter's aid) to provide basic medical care until EMS can arrive on scene.  You must be able to stop and control bleeding and/or maintain an airway at a minimum until help arrives.


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Postby JohnFH » Sat May 26, 2012 10:08 am

EVERYONE should have the basics, not just gun owners, accidents can happen any place.

That is why I am an EMS instructor.

Any one that wants a CPR/First aid Certification feel free to contact me
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Postby snakeeater332 » Mon May 28, 2012 5:41 am

Yes, JohnFH, I agree that everyone should at least know the basics - First Aid and CPR. Thank you for your service as an EMS instructor and the offer to teach First Aid and CPR to others here.

First Aid and CPR is great to know, but that's not what I'm referring to here. Also, I am in no way advocating that any government body mandate this for gun owners.

This is a GUN forum, right?!? We're all gun owners here, we keep one (or more) at home for HD and/or carry one for SD, right? Guns are designed to put holes in people.

With firearms present in the home, the chances that a family member, friend, or ourselves may be injured by a firearm accidentally discharged may be greater than our actually being involved in a self-defense shooting. Go ahead and stick your head in the sand....say "it will never happen to me." You can't rule it out unless you completely remove all firearms from your home. I'm not willing to do that and I bet you aren't either.

And even if we are involved in exchanging rounds with a BG, there's a chance that rounds (both our's and/or the BG's) may miss their intended target(s) and possibly strike bystanders, possibly someone we know and love.

I am only advocating a higher level of preparedness in this regard, above and beyond simple First Aid and CPR.

Personally, I carry an ITS ETA Trauma Kit (MIL/LE) in my patrol car attached to my gear bag and an additional one on my chest rig, which is kept in the cargo area of my personal SUV.

http://www.itstactical.com/store/its-eta-trauma-kit/
http://www.itstactical.com/store/its-eta-trauma-kit-pouch-multicam/

This kit contains the following:
Z-Fold Combat Gauze (w/ X-Ray Detectable Strip – Green Package) (1)
HALO Chest Seal (2)
MojoDart Decompression Needle (1)
Naso Airway Adj. 28fr w/ Surgilube (1)
Israeli Bandage (1 – 4 inch)
Ace Bandage (1 – 4 inch)
Z-Pak Gauze (1)
Combat Casualty Card (1)
Nitrile Gloves (1 Pair)
Pencil (1)
Contents List w/ TCCC Care Under Fire Instructions (1)

I've also added to each kit:
SOF Tactical Tourniquet - Wide (1)
[url]http://www.itstactical.com/store/sof-tactical-tourniquet-–-wide/[/url]
Mojo Medical Shears (1)
http://www.itstactical.com/store/mojo-medical-shears/

I continuously seek to improve my knowledge base and add skills to my 'toolbox'. Additional medical training is another 'tool' that makes me more rounded and valuable as a warrior.
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Postby JohnFH » Mon May 28, 2012 5:50 am

Without medical control, you can only provide basic First/Aid and CPR, it is against state law to do any more.
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Postby punisher » Mon May 28, 2012 7:45 am

Well,
Ill be honest and come forward and admit------ I had a accidental discharge
:oops:
2 years ago i was cleaning my NAA 22mag barrel facing my abdomen.
It was about 1" away fom my skin BOOOMM.
It happens. I fuc$4d up lt left a scar to remind me what can happen. :oops:
common sense is not common

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Postby GixerJockey » Mon May 28, 2012 8:25 am

snakeeater332 wrote:
First Aid and CPR is great to know, but that's not what I'm referring to here. Also, I am in no way advocating that any government body mandate this for gun owners.


So what are you referring to? Your post makes no mention of it other than carrying a "first aid" kit with you at all times, which I already do.

You mention being able to control and stop bleeding and maintain an airway... which I learned how to do in first-aid certification classes.


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